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>> well, joe biden and mitch mcconnell are older school politicians. they remember a time when compromise was how you close deals like this. and there are a lot of, i guess, mostly younger members up there who don't remember that time. they view their job is to go to washington and create conflict and have grid lock. that doesn't mean that their caucuses will certainly be with them. that is no surprise to me that vice president joe biden is talking with them. it is not a slam dunk, i suspect it will, especially if it passes the senate with a significantly bipartisan vote. you have some real deal makers. >> what do you think that this really means in your opinion, to the average american taxpayer? whether, you know, with the threat we may go over the cliff, and now we may really not. what difference did this really, really mean and if you could put it in plain words for us who are not economists, just explain what it means for all of us? >> well, first of all it means that if you're someone who is a beneficiary of long-term unemployment benefits, you're
>> well, joe biden and mitch mcconnell are older school politicians. they remember a time when compromise was how you close deals like this. and there are a lot of, i guess, mostly younger members up there who don't remember that time. they view their job is to go to washington and create conflict and have grid lock. that doesn't mean that their caucuses will certainly be with them. that is no surprise to me that vice president joe biden is talking with them. it is not a slam dunk, i...
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>> reporter: well, i can't get in the mind of joe biden. but i guess it will be likely some of the arguments he makes from talking to democrats. he will try to say they have made a deal that is a significant move from where republicans want it to be. and that is an advantage for democrats, meaning, some of the first agreements to do tax increases in a generation, a big win for the president. he will also say that things like maintaining the estate tax, while that will still protect a lot of people, the rate will go up. they will call that a win. he will certainly talk about the benefits to people who are on the lower end of the economic scale, like unemployment benefits. like some of the education credits and things that are in there. he will be making a pitch that the country needs a deal and the democrats will be responsible in both the senate and the house to deliver a deal. and that is how he will try to persuade his fellow democrats. melissa? >> thank you, kelly o'donnell, we'll be back with more on the fiscal cliff negotiations, when
>> reporter: well, i can't get in the mind of joe biden. but i guess it will be likely some of the arguments he makes from talking to democrats. he will try to say they have made a deal that is a significant move from where republicans want it to be. and that is an advantage for democrats, meaning, some of the first agreements to do tax increases in a generation, a big win for the president. he will also say that things like maintaining the estate tax, while that will still protect a lot...
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biden was -- joe vice president joe biden was briefing. here is joe biden on expectations a moment ago. >> two things you shouldn't do, shouldn't predict how the senate will vote, and number two, shouldn't predict how the house will vote. i feel very, very good. i think we will get a good vote tonight. >> reporter: senate vote in a matter of moments. no idea what will happen. >> do you think this is the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning? >> reporter: absolutely. >> well said. thank you for watching. we are always on www.wusa9.com. letterman is next. have a great night and a very happy new years.
biden was -- joe vice president joe biden was briefing. here is joe biden on expectations a moment ago. >> two things you shouldn't do, shouldn't predict how the senate will vote, and number two, shouldn't predict how the house will vote. i feel very, very good. i think we will get a good vote tonight. >> reporter: senate vote in a matter of moments. no idea what will happen. >> do you think this is the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning? >> reporter:...
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vice president joe biden apparently dropped by the white house today. do you know if he and the president have spoken? >> reporter: well, he is here at the white house so he is, of course, a big part of these negotiations going on behind the scenes, and the white house not giving us a whole lot of details about who is in communication with whom. yes, tea very likely that they are in constant communication that this is all evolving this day and it's hugely important in trying to move these negotiations forward, and as you have pointed out time is running out, and the consequences could be huge, not only would taxes go up on americans if they fail to get a deal done here, but we could see the markets really impacted by this and respond to this. we already saw that last week to some extent. there is deep concern that that could happen more drastically this week, that we would see the markets drop, so there is a lot of pressure on congress, on the president, the vice president, to try to get a deal here, but still at this hour, melissa, there's just no deal
vice president joe biden apparently dropped by the white house today. do you know if he and the president have spoken? >> reporter: well, he is here at the white house so he is, of course, a big part of these negotiations going on behind the scenes, and the white house not giving us a whole lot of details about who is in communication with whom. yes, tea very likely that they are in constant communication that this is all evolving this day and it's hugely important in trying to move these...
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in attendance will be vice president joe biden. is it going to be difficult to sell your party on this deal? >> well, i think that we're going to come together in about an hour as a democratic caucus and hear the vice president out. there are a lot of good things in this bill that make sense and that i think it will ultimately earn the overwhelming majority of house democratic votes. we made sure that as we committed throughout this last campaign that we would not allow taxes to increase on 98% of americans that's in this deal. we made sure that we pushed off a really significant slashing of defense spending as well as domestic spending and we'll make sure going forward that whatever deal we do reach on those spending cuts is balanced when it comes to both revenue and spending cuts. and that's the overall -- overriding commitment here is we have a balanced plan in front of us and we'll need to -- any further deals made in the future continue to have a balanced plan. >> there are some in your party who don't like this plan. senator
in attendance will be vice president joe biden. is it going to be difficult to sell your party on this deal? >> well, i think that we're going to come together in about an hour as a democratic caucus and hear the vice president out. there are a lot of good things in this bill that make sense and that i think it will ultimately earn the overwhelming majority of house democratic votes. we made sure that as we committed throughout this last campaign that we would not allow taxes to increase...
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we reported that joe biden, the environment, is in the building. our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to come through he and meet with all of the senate democrats for the meeting you were talking about with the senator. sounds as though they're doing a little talking about -- a little bit of a game plan about how they're going to present this to the caucus, and obviously, that's a very delicate issue for reasons we have been talking about. the democratic caucus, many of them are not happy. in fact, i have to tell you i was told by one democratic senator when they put up on a screen, they put up yesterday in a meeting that democrats were having, they put up almost
we reported that joe biden, the environment, is in the building. our photographer just saw him go into harry reid's office. he's currently meeting, i don't know, one-on-one, or maybe with other members of the senate democratic leadership in the office of senator harry reid, which is just around the corner from where i'm standing right now. you see this crowd of people behind me. those are reporters waiting to see if the vice president is going to come through because he's eventually going to...
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mcconnell and joe biden. so there's an indication of how things are going. >> you wrote that democrats are hesitant to put a deal on the senate floor with no republican backing, because it just offers them a chance to score political points when public opinion does seem to be favoring the democrats. democrats don't have an incentive to waste a show of support for something that can't pass, right? >> that's exactly where democrats are. they feel like they want to get a deal with republican backing, if they can. but remember on friday, the president kind of put republicans in a box. he said either cut a deal in the senate and push it through, or i'm going to ask harry reid to put my scaled back plan on the senate floor. and remember that scaled back plan has tax increases for everybody who makes over $250,000, which republicans don't love at all. i'll have harry reid put that on the floor and you'll have to block it. and you will have to then take responsibility for not pushing it through. so republicans are a
mcconnell and joe biden. so there's an indication of how things are going. >> you wrote that democrats are hesitant to put a deal on the senate floor with no republican backing, because it just offers them a chance to score political points when public opinion does seem to be favoring the democrats. democrats don't have an incentive to waste a show of support for something that can't pass, right? >> that's exactly where democrats are. they feel like they want to get a deal with...
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biden and whatever the case joe biden he's known for his big about big mouth he's known for his even bigger teeth when obama recently passed his major health care act at the podium biden gave him a hug and as he hugged him he said in a negative way he said this is a big deal guys run run the grab so we can hear what he had to say mr joe biden vice president. the president the united states of america barack obama. thank you everybody. not only not only was heard by barack obama but it was heard by everyone on stage even people started tweeting about it saying that you are mr joe biden you're absolutely right in the you know that guy's story or is it just me or has a bronco obama in some way been involved in almost all of the open mikes whether he's talking to someone or being talked about or it's his vice president he's you know involved in a lot of action i actually barack obama is pretty good i think i think he does work with the whole you never alone with myself i get bored in them but people does get caught in the wrong zones certainly there's talk about a guy getting caught the
biden and whatever the case joe biden he's known for his big about big mouth he's known for his even bigger teeth when obama recently passed his major health care act at the podium biden gave him a hug and as he hugged him he said in a negative way he said this is a big deal guys run run the grab so we can hear what he had to say mr joe biden vice president. the president the united states of america barack obama. thank you everybody. not only not only was heard by barack obama but it was heard...
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democrats got out of their meeting with vice president joe biden. the vice president had been is set to the hill to discuss the deal and he spent much of the past 24 hours working out the details with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. here is what we know about the potential deal as of right now. current bush era tax cuts will expire for individuals with an income over $400,000, also for couples with an income over $450,000. unemployment benefits will be extended. the sequester, automatic spending cuts that would hit a wide range of government programs, including department of defense, will be dedelayed for a two-month period and be paid for with a 50/50 split on tax increases and spending cuts. joining us now is kelly o'donnell what have you learned with the vice president's meeting with senate democrats? >> we were able to talk to some within the meeting, they are in a bit of waiting game, in part because of the legislation, being turned into an actual test that will have the lengtext tha language. and the budget office will give it a score
democrats got out of their meeting with vice president joe biden. the vice president had been is set to the hill to discuss the deal and he spent much of the past 24 hours working out the details with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. here is what we know about the potential deal as of right now. current bush era tax cuts will expire for individuals with an income over $400,000, also for couples with an income over $450,000. unemployment benefits will be extended. the sequester, automatic...
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joe biden is your crazy uncle joe. it's not a joke. you go to thanksgiving dinner and mention something. don't mention it then he's like i'm getting out. uncle joe, go back a little bit. now i have to say -- >> so i think it was funny that the president actively tried to be funny in multiple points of the debate. when he woke up for the foreign policy debate, he had a great moment where he makes the bayonet joke. let's listen to the president being funny. >> you mentioned the navy, for example. we have fewer ships in we have fewer horses and bayonets. >> classic. >> let's go, obama. did his staff finally find the adrenaline pump and stab him? he woke up. i was clapping saying please, continue this, whatever is happening, please. >> it was good stuff. >> i feel like the first time out, cousin obama was channelling his inner middle eastern leader like why is this man talking to me. i think that's what it was. the next time, he was a comic that forgot to do his jokes so he used every whitey comeback he forgot the first time. >> right. >>
joe biden is your crazy uncle joe. it's not a joke. you go to thanksgiving dinner and mention something. don't mention it then he's like i'm getting out. uncle joe, go back a little bit. now i have to say -- >> so i think it was funny that the president actively tried to be funny in multiple points of the debate. when he woke up for the foreign policy debate, he had a great moment where he makes the bayonet joke. let's listen to the president being funny. >> you mentioned the navy,...
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certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you already hear them expressing a great deal of dismay.
certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you...
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the white house is very involved in this, particularly joe biden. dana saying if there is a deal, they're going to need joe biden to go over and talk to democrats there to sell this to them. there have been those who have been dissatisfied with the development of a deal as we have heard about it today. what's going on at the white house right now? >> well, i have reported that the vice president is set to go up there just as soon as the democrats hold or schedule a caucus, a meeting of the senate democrats to present the bill. and then the vice president will take their questions and answer any of their concerns. but ali, just hours before that ball is set to drop in new york city, there is still time for lawmakers to drop the ball here in washington, d.c. i have been waiting a long time to use that line. >> you may have several chances through the course of the evening to use it more. >> can i give you -- let me tell you something else. there is still -- the important thing for the white house right now is there's a lot of optimism here, optimism a
the white house is very involved in this, particularly joe biden. dana saying if there is a deal, they're going to need joe biden to go over and talk to democrats there to sell this to them. there have been those who have been dissatisfied with the development of a deal as we have heard about it today. what's going on at the white house right now? >> well, i have reported that the vice president is set to go up there just as soon as the democrats hold or schedule a caucus, a meeting of...
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the vice president, joe biden, spent a lot of time with house democrats today. that was a very persuasive presentation, house democratic officials tell me. there are lots of votes on the democratic side. the question is can republicans provide enough on their side to get this deal done. the white house tonight is a bit hopeful. >> mason: major, is this an effort by vice president joe biden or is the president himself getting involved in making calls? >> the president is not making calls white house officials tell me-- for a practical reason. he doesn't have good relationship with house republicans and the white house decided it would do more harm than good. the vice president has an excellent relationship with the house democrats and the white house is basically letting house republicans work this out for themselves and they hope they will sometime later this evening. >> mason: we hope so, too, major garrett at the white house, thanks, major. the new year brought in new laws around the country. at midnight, maryland became the ninth state to allow marriage. in c
the vice president, joe biden, spent a lot of time with house democrats today. that was a very persuasive presentation, house democratic officials tell me. there are lots of votes on the democratic side. the question is can republicans provide enough on their side to get this deal done. the white house tonight is a bit hopeful. >> mason: major, is this an effort by vice president joe biden or is the president himself getting involved in making calls? >> the president is not making...
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called in a senate colleague vice president joe biden. >> willing to work with whoev er can help. it remain as possible sticking point. appears to be a willingness and interest or the courage to close the deal. >> top on the republican side sound hopeful because they believe vice president biden can cut a deal but it may not be tonight. >> president obama putting pressure on lawmakers to reach a deal. mr. obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he put much of the blame on shoulders of the republicans if no deal is reached. the gop fired back saying the president should lead right now not cast blame. correspondent s henry is live from the white house. >> he is frustrated going on a talk show today in the middle of the negotiations. he has not been on one of the
called in a senate colleague vice president joe biden. >> willing to work with whoev er can help. it remain as possible sticking point. appears to be a willingness and interest or the courage to close the deal. >> top on the republican side sound hopeful because they believe vice president biden can cut a deal but it may not be tonight. >> president obama putting pressure on lawmakers to reach a deal. mr. obama making remarks about the fiscal cliff aired it earlier today. he...
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joe biden was on. >> joe biden, that's right. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he was awesome. >> go joe biden! >> jimmy: what's that. don't read my note. okay, you can see it. >> i love joe biden. yes, we were in d.c. shooting and we were so lucky to get the vice president and it was before the election so we were really hoping that they won. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that would have been awkward, yeah. >> it would be a little bit more of a sadder -- sadder scene if that wasn't the case. but he was so great. >> jimmy: here is you and your celebrity crushes. >> look at my face. it's so funny. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he was great. >> he was so good. he was a natural actor. >> jimmy: is he a good actor? >> oh my god, great improviser, so funny and nice, his like -- i was going to say his cast, but it's the people that work for him, not his cast. [ laughter ] his cast. >> jimmy: his cast is the best. he has the best variety show cast. [ laughter ] a cast of humans -- >> yeah, he was so great. he was like a doll. >> jimmy: yeah, he was good. right? >> yeah. >> jimmy: everyone is going nuts talking about
joe biden was on. >> joe biden, that's right. [ cheers ] >> jimmy: he was awesome. >> go joe biden! >> jimmy: what's that. don't read my note. okay, you can see it. >> i love joe biden. yes, we were in d.c. shooting and we were so lucky to get the vice president and it was before the election so we were really hoping that they won. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: that would have been awkward, yeah. >> it would be a little bit more of a sadder -- sadder scene if...
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in today's "closing bell" exchange, former chief economist of the vice president joe biden, oliver perch from gary goldberg and matt cheslock and rick santelli, thank you very much. jarred, you wrote an article
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joe biden met with fellow democrats and briefed them on where they were as far as the compromise. legislation was then drawn up and the senate met arounded 2 -- did around the 2:00 hour and cast the votes and that's where we are today. now, we are not out of the woods yet because the house still need to vote on this measure. and they will not return to capitol hill until noon so we don't know how the story ends just quite as yet charley. >> renee as we understand yesterday presidentth president addressed the nation at 1:30 and this was on new year's eve he was surrounded by a few supporters. he came out for about 15 minutes and made some remarks. this was a direct message was it not to members of congress saying get a deal done. >> reporter: it was. and we saw backlash just moments after the president came out and spoke. there were some senators who felt as if that was not the right time for the president to do that almost bullying them into getting this all done senator john mccain not happy with the president's words as well one senator tweeting out that if the president thinks
joe biden met with fellow democrats and briefed them on where they were as far as the compromise. legislation was then drawn up and the senate met arounded 2 -- did around the 2:00 hour and cast the votes and that's where we are today. now, we are not out of the woods yet because the house still need to vote on this measure. and they will not return to capitol hill until noon so we don't know how the story ends just quite as yet charley. >> renee as we understand yesterday presidentth...
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he lived in those states. >> if she doesn't run, i'm not betting on cuomo over joe biden. >> i would. i would definitely -- >> it's the same argument we made for hillary clinton. she's going to have the money, she's got the establishment and all good people around her. andrew cuomo does not come into the race as formidable as hillary clinton looked in 2007. >> what about a republican? how do you prevent a republican primary picture that you guys had, which i think a lot of you folks in romney world believe the republican primaries hurt romney. >> the debates became a bit of a side show. if you looked at the volatility of the electorate and how the numbers went up and down based on debate performances and the side show they became, that was something that had a very big effect. i think the rnc could step in and take more of a management role in the process there and have an impact on an eventual nominee and have that nominee much more viably positions for a general election. >> so you election. >> a fairly large field, jeb would shrink it a bit, but without jeb, boy, i think seven, eig
he lived in those states. >> if she doesn't run, i'm not betting on cuomo over joe biden. >> i would. i would definitely -- >> it's the same argument we made for hillary clinton. she's going to have the money, she's got the establishment and all good people around her. andrew cuomo does not come into the race as formidable as hillary clinton looked in 2007. >> what about a republican? how do you prevent a republican primary picture that you guys had, which i think a lot...
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the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert who is on the hill and where things stand. first, let's listen into the start of this session. >> the speakers are in washington d.c., january 1, 2013. i hereby hereby appoint the honorable robert j. dole to act as speaker in temporary on this day, signed john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. >> the prayer will be offered by our chaplain father conroy. >> let us pray. eternal god, we give you thanks for giving us another day, a new year. the political struggles of the past year have revealed the divisions that exist in our nation. there are many american citizens who are angry,
the democrats are said to be going in now and that vice president joe biden who, of course, was key in making the senate deal happen, will be in that caucus, we're told. big questions, though, still outstanding. when might the house vote on this deal? can speaker boehner come up with the votes to pass it? or will republicans try to amend it and end send it back. good day. happy new year. i'm chris jansing. there are a lot of moving parts on capitol hill. let's get right to nbc's luke russert...
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joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i particular affection, they know each other and they know what makes the other tick. they know what the other incentives are. the personal relationships can matter. there's no question. i think it will give sort of credibility to joe biden's standing, and they will show the value of that kind of institutional knowledge and seniority. >> they say it's the deal and it's the program meter is 450,000 with an extension of the patch in amt and extension of unemployment benefits and all these sorts of things. are both sides able even if they're not r
joe biden is saying, yeah, 2016. maybe. >> he is not going through the ritual of saying -- he is clearly it does interest me. it's hard to -- i would separate this from presidential politics. as hard as that is for somebody like us. >> come on. it's tough. i do think this represents the fact that at the end of the day particularly in your intense dead looirn situation personal relationships do matter. two men that have been in the senate and know each other. i don't know of if i...
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biden as a former senator and unstuck everything and in fact, joe biden got a nickname from top white house aides here as the mcconnell whisperer as if he had a magic potion to cut through the noise and we'll see if the whisperer comes back and we'll get sort of-- >> any kind of a whisper to get a deal. there's been so much shouting, maybe a whisper will help bring it together, harris. >> harris: i like that, the flip side. ed henry, thank you very much. >> reporter: good to see you. >> harris: we're only hours away from the markets hoping now for what will be the final trading day of 2012. and wall street is watching washington very carefully. not only because of the fiscal cliff fight, but because of another potential crisis looming in the wings. remember this? our nation's enormous debt. joining me now again, gerri willis, anchor of the willis report on the fox business network. you know, i followed something called the debt tally on twitter and it shows you that it changes every second or so, and not in a good way, all day long. we learned last week from treasury secretary timothy
biden as a former senator and unstuck everything and in fact, joe biden got a nickname from top white house aides here as the mcconnell whisperer as if he had a magic potion to cut through the noise and we'll see if the whisperer comes back and we'll get sort of-- >> any kind of a whisper to get a deal. there's been so much shouting, maybe a whisper will help bring it together, harris. >> harris: i like that, the flip side. ed henry, thank you very much. >> reporter: good to...
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mitch mcconnell and joe biden in talks. we will move to the jump page on some of the sticking points in this. democrats oppose it to let the tax cuts expire on incomes over $450,000 a year. host: that from inside "the washington post." ed is on the phone from michigan. good morning to you. caller: good morning, c-span. i have listened to some of what the democrats have said. the way i look at it -- if the rich, if they are worried about 3% raise, one of the middle class and the poor or about the same raise? is it your patriotic duty to pay taxes? if the poor are concerned about their money going down, a lot of energy regulations are coming into effect that will cost electric costs to co-op which will affect the poor just as badly as it is the rich? host: mark from ohio, good morning. caller: all the power was taken from the epa and given to the nra. there is no fiscal cliff. there was another so-called fiscal cliff in 2008. give money to the billionaires and banks. when eisenhower took office, he gutted the military. taxes
mitch mcconnell and joe biden in talks. we will move to the jump page on some of the sticking points in this. democrats oppose it to let the tax cuts expire on incomes over $450,000 a year. host: that from inside "the washington post." ed is on the phone from michigan. good morning to you. caller: good morning, c-span. i have listened to some of what the democrats have said. the way i look at it -- if the rich, if they are worried about 3% raise, one of the middle class and the poor...
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>> good morning, terrell, vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell reached out to him sunday night after talks with democrats stalled. but with just hours go until this deadline there are still obstacles standing in the way of even a watered down agreement. lawmakers left the capitol sunday night without a deal in place, but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. >> i want everyone know i'm willing to get this done but i need a dance partner. >> some progress was made sunday when they dropped a proposal to slow social security growth but the main sticking point between democrats and republicans continues to be over the threshold of tax increases. president obama campaigned on raising taxes on income over $250,000 while many congressional republicans have
>> good morning, terrell, vice president joe biden is now in on negotiations. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell reached out to him sunday night after talks with democrats stalled. but with just hours go until this deadline there are still obstacles standing in the way of even a watered down agreement. lawmakers left the capitol sunday night without a deal in place, but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant...
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we spent this time, joe biden and mitch mcconnell spent all this time trying to get an agreement. what are we supposed to do with this? this leaves the question out there, could we go over the fiscal cliff entirely? we are teetering on the edge from where we stand now, it's a good possibility. i will say though, if john boehner wanted to take this bill and put it to the floor without amendments, essentially having a p profile in courage moment t would probably pass. from the republican i spoke to in the room, they said if there's an appetite for folks who have been around here for a while to get this over with, they can live to fight another day on the debt limit and on the government funding bill. but this would be a pr disaster for republicans. there is nowhere else for this bill to go. if the house gop tries to administration this with this short amount of time left, they feel, this member spoke to me and folks close to the speaker, they feel the claim woublame wo them. the sandy supplemental bill for the relief and the folks effected by the hurricane, that's tied up in this, t
we spent this time, joe biden and mitch mcconnell spent all this time trying to get an agreement. what are we supposed to do with this? this leaves the question out there, could we go over the fiscal cliff entirely? we are teetering on the edge from where we stand now, it's a good possibility. i will say though, if john boehner wanted to take this bill and put it to the floor without amendments, essentially having a p profile in courage moment t would probably pass. from the republican i spoke...
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while vice president joe biden is in capitol hill to sell it to senate democrats, they have got to sign off on the framework of that deal. this is what we know, adam. it exempts income of $400,000 for individuals, $450,000 for families from a tax increase, capital gains and dividends stay the same local straits, amounts above that. permit the patches the alternative minimum tax. estate tax goes to 40% of amounts more than $5 million, one-year extension of employment benefits and the doctor fix making sure medicare doctors don't get a massive pay cut, that is also part of all of this. the debt ceiling is not part of that, something democrats wanted to extract more spending cuts in later debate. the headline here according to a g.o.p. aide, the whole thing is done. it does not mean it is a done deal entirely. but this just developing in the last couple of minutes. adam: when you say the whole thing is done, why is the vice president going to the capital? it sounds to me there are still democrats who need arm-twisting because there was at least part of that side leadership was confirmeconc
while vice president joe biden is in capitol hill to sell it to senate democrats, they have got to sign off on the framework of that deal. this is what we know, adam. it exempts income of $400,000 for individuals, $450,000 for families from a tax increase, capital gains and dividends stay the same local straits, amounts above that. permit the patches the alternative minimum tax. estate tax goes to 40% of amounts more than $5 million, one-year extension of employment benefits and the doctor fix...
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biden who used to be senator joe biden. there was no harry reid. can you talk to me about this? >> the way things get done in washington is relationships. that's what we all need to do more of, democrats and republicans talking to each other. those two trusted each other. i think he had a good backup thing going on between senator reid and joe biden. mitch mcconnell trusted joe biden. they trust. in washington, your word is something that's very important. they got a deal last night. for the country, i think that was a good thing. >> we do know the republicans say it's not a raise on taxes for those who make $250,000. at least it's up to $400,000. they can say the bush tax cuts which everyone knew were going to be sunsetted in ten years, 12 years later 90% of them are in place permanently. are republicans spinning it and saying those are good things? >> i think they are legitimately good things. the fact of the matter is raising taxes on people that hire folks my age and buying products that create jobs is going to do somet
biden who used to be senator joe biden. there was no harry reid. can you talk to me about this? >> the way things get done in washington is relationships. that's what we all need to do more of, democrats and republicans talking to each other. those two trusted each other. i think he had a good backup thing going on between senator reid and joe biden. mitch mcconnell trusted joe biden. they trust. in washington, your word is something that's very important. they got a deal last night. for...
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tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the message is just sit tight, stay tuned and i think what we have to do, don, is find out tomorrow morning, whether there is any progress between senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden. there is definitely hope. there is not a lot of time. >> let me tell you this, lisa. when you see the workers there, and the crew that -- and those are the people who these negotiations are about. every day americans who work these types of jobs, who are every day americans and so there you go. i think that is absolutely tells the story. >> don, i want to -- >> go ahead. >> i want
tonight it's between senator mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. we're some of the last people in the building. i know -- come on through, guys, if you want. there's one of the crews that -- the worker crews are starting to come into work tonight. we're the last reporting crew. all the members of congress have pretty much gone. the republicans in the house were meeting late tonight to try to talk about what to do, in the end this is what our producer deirdre walsh heard from them. the...
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the joe biden thing, we underestimate him. he's a sitting vice president. >> vice president of the united states. >> vice president of the united states. >> a secret weapon out there. >> it's a weird thing. >> he is very good on the -- people -- he gets caricatured. if you watch him in -- on the stump, he's very good at connecting. >> look. >> he is. he does make mistakes. >> you loved him. >> i disagree. >> you love to mock him. you think he's a joke and done? >> i think he's been built in to the obama organization and how he flourished. i think he has a lot of people in the media that like him. i think if this were -- i hate to play my media bias card but as a republican caricatured much worse than he really is and i just don't see him having -- to stephanie's point, you cannot sort of borrow or live off of or be an heir to somebody else's organization. >> bush temporarily did it with reagan in '88 and didn't hold. >> nowadays you have to build and manage and own your own organization. >> i agree with that. there is no heir
the joe biden thing, we underestimate him. he's a sitting vice president. >> vice president of the united states. >> vice president of the united states. >> a secret weapon out there. >> it's a weird thing. >> he is very good on the -- people -- he gets caricatured. if you watch him in -- on the stump, he's very good at connecting. >> look. >> he is. he does make mistakes. >> you loved him. >> i disagree. >> you love to mock him. you...
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. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular love him. maybe you got a problem -- >> we're talking about his wife as a candidate. >> jill? >> why not? >> because she's shown no political ambition. she teaches at a community college and she has a fine career. >> okay. best political theater of 2012. pat? >> i hate to say it but i think the democratic convention in charlotte. it was a real bell winger of a convention, very entertaining. >> eleanor? >> i second that and i loved clint eastwood interviewing the empty chair. that was classic. >> you really thought he had it all together. >> e
. -- joe biden. even if he runs in 2016 for the presidency. >> named the head of the whole gun thing. >> i'm telling you -- this position. >> we'll have to wait. >> his political style is seen unfortunately for him as too aseckic for broad appeal. maybe you should talk to his wife about running for president. his wife is terrific. >> he may or may not run for president, john. but a lot of people love joe biden. he's an authentic voice and democrats in particular...
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in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that. take a listen. >> one of proposals we made was something called change cpi but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security. highly unpopular among democrats not something supported but to strengthen social security in the long time i'm willing to make those decisions. >> reporter: in the morning, the president seemed to be opening the door to rein in those entitlements and then you heard harry reid shut the door on it. the president was talking in the context of reining in entitlements in a four trillion dollar debt deal not in the last minute deal, he would be willing to do that in much broader debt deal. but when you talk to republicans ron johnson from wisconsin, the real problem the president is not willing to rein in sp
in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that. take a listen. >> one of proposals we made was something called change cpi but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security. highly unpopular among...
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because it seemed like joe biden was very much in charge. well, the fact is, biden was actually very much an extension of him and it sort of makes sense when you think of the rhythm of how congress works. the president, of course, served in the senate. joe biden served in the senate for decades alongside mitch mcconnell. and it was really, i think, that relationship, and sort of his knowing the rhythm of congress. and also, frankly, the deadline that helped kind of push this along. >> brianna keilar in washington, thanks for being with us. we'll talk to you again real soon >> staying in the capital now with jonathan allen. senior congressional correspondent for politico. john, give us some sense of the word from the house this morning. because we're going to spend a lot of time telling all those folks who might have been doing something other than paying attention to what was going on with the fiscal cliff overnight what the details of the plans are. we wasting our breath? is this going to make it through the house? >> the message we're hear
because it seemed like joe biden was very much in charge. well, the fact is, biden was actually very much an extension of him and it sort of makes sense when you think of the rhythm of how congress works. the president, of course, served in the senate. joe biden served in the senate for decades alongside mitch mcconnell. and it was really, i think, that relationship, and sort of his knowing the rhythm of congress. and also, frankly, the deadline that helped kind of push this along. >>...
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vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal. one major stumbling block has been overcome. republicans have dropped their demand to reduce social security, cost of living increases. you will know that as the chain cpi. >> and the public has taken their demand for social security benefits off the table. the truth is they never should have been on the table to begin with. significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too hot for the american people to be engaged, in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> we followed th
vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal....
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joe biden does not often serve in his capacity as president of the senate. but today was ditch. today joe biden had an incredibly important job to fulfill. >> do you solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which you're about to enter, so help you god? >> i do. >> congratulations, senator. >> thank you. >> and welcome. >> congratulations, senator. stayed the united states senate got a brand new member. democratic -- democrat brian schatz of hawaii. senator schatz was appointed by hawaii's governor last night to fill the vacant seat of senator daniel inouye, who passed away a week ago. brian schatz got on air force one late last night. he touched down in washington early this morning. and he was a senator by this afternoon. that is a big day. so senator schatz, welcome to washingto
joe biden does not often serve in his capacity as president of the senate. but today was ditch. today joe biden had an incredibly important job to fulfill. >> do you solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that you take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties...
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but what you bring with joe biden is those decades of experience, and understanding the mind said of lawmakers. he has been on both sides of deal-making over the years when he had the leverage or didn't have the leverage, and knows what it's like to be in a tight spot and willing to try to work things out and to get creative about finding solutions. what happens in these deals is that you have staffers who are experts in various areas when it comes to tax policy or spending. people who know the budget like the back of their hand. they're really at the table looking for those details. so you might have the big overarching thematic discussions that have been going on for a long time. i've had people in both parties say there is a fundamental trust between joe biden and mitch mcconnell that is helping things along. if that's going well, then it also benefits harry reid and it benefits speaker boehner arguably if people believe there is a sense of good faith going back and forth. they might disagree on points this isn't easy, but they both believe if they're working towards the same goal
but what you bring with joe biden is those decades of experience, and understanding the mind said of lawmakers. he has been on both sides of deal-making over the years when he had the leverage or didn't have the leverage, and knows what it's like to be in a tight spot and willing to try to work things out and to get creative about finding solutions. what happens in these deals is that you have staffers who are experts in various areas when it comes to tax policy or spending. people who know the...
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i mean, joe biden used to say that this congress, it's not your grandfather's congress. by that i think what he meant was you could actually get in the room with another old-school partner and shake hands and have that handshake actually mean something, meaning your caucuses would be with you. you could craft a deal and actually have your troops marching behind you. that certainly wasn't the case with john boehner. so i think in that room they're probably bemoaning how hard they have to work to actually line up all these pieces to get their troops behind them and, frankly, they can't know whether those troops are going to be there, especially in the house. but that's probably the way they've been operating. >> jared bernstein, thank you very much for coming on. help new y help new year. >> same to you, jonathan. stay with us. ing. ring. progresso. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso.
i mean, joe biden used to say that this congress, it's not your grandfather's congress. by that i think what he meant was you could actually get in the room with another old-school partner and shake hands and have that handshake actually mean something, meaning your caucuses would be with you. you could craft a deal and actually have your troops marching behind you. that certainly wasn't the case with john boehner. so i think in that room they're probably bemoaning how hard they have to work to...
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. >> democrats in the house met with vice president joe biden today. he's urging their support for the deal passed by the senate. the holdup on the other side seems to be a desire for much more in the way of federal spending cuts. it's still a game of wait and see with severe consequences for most americans. being staying on top of the hill and have the very latest for you tonight on the 10:00 news. >> all right. let's join fox 5 political analyst to get more insight on this. mark, how is the president i guess going to claim total victory if in fact he's raising tax rates on the rich but ultimately going up. he said it was 250,000 and now gone up to 4 or 450. >> that's right. plan b, john boehner, the leader of the rublicans offered to do it at a million. in a way, the republicans were defeated in terms of getting it up to a million. they never got a vote. everybody is going to get a tax increase that has nothing to do with this bill because of the payroll tax holiday. a person earning $50,000 is going to pay $800 more by virtue of the fact that expire
. >> democrats in the house met with vice president joe biden today. he's urging their support for the deal passed by the senate. the holdup on the other side seems to be a desire for much more in the way of federal spending cuts. it's still a game of wait and see with severe consequences for most americans. being staying on top of the hill and have the very latest for you tonight on the 10:00 news. >> all right. let's join fox 5 political analyst to get more insight on this. mark,...
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i do think that joe biden is formidable. he really was our secret weapon out there. >> eleven -- >> ohio, iowa, wisconsin. he lived in those states. >> i'm not betting on andy cuomo over joe biden, a sitting vice president. i know that the rest of this -- >> i would. i would definitely -- >> i'm just saying. >> that's the same argument we made for hillary clinton. well, she's going to have the money. she's got the establishment and all good people around her. andrew cuomo does not come into that race as formidable as hillary clinton looked in 2007. >> what about a republican? how do you prevent a republican primary picture that you guys had, which i think a lot of you folks and romney believe the -- >> look, i think the debates, actually, were -- became a bit of a side show there, and if you looked at the volatility of the electorate at the time and how the -- and how the numbers went up and down based on debate performances and the side show that they became, i think that was something that had a very big effect. i think th
i do think that joe biden is formidable. he really was our secret weapon out there. >> eleven -- >> ohio, iowa, wisconsin. he lived in those states. >> i'm not betting on andy cuomo over joe biden, a sitting vice president. i know that the rest of this -- >> i would. i would definitely -- >> i'm just saying. >> that's the same argument we made for hillary clinton. well, she's going to have the money. she's got the establishment and all good people around her....
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to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense where they are, if they're any further along, and then if there is a package, it would be revealed to each side, meaning the house and the senate, let members take a look at it, and gauge if they're ready to go and vote on it. it is the final day of the year tomorrow. and so the time could not be any shorter. and that's putting pressure on everyone involved. we just don't have a sense if there is optimism, but at least we're told they are still talking. chris? >> obviously, vice president biden has not been involved in these negotiations up until now. do we know why the whit
to the vice president and said, perhaps joe biden could help jump start things. that's where we are now. there was a lot of fatigue and weariness as the day went on the without a package for members to consider. there was a lot of back and forth, as you know, about different elements of a potential deal and what was angering one side or another. what we expected now is, barring some late night breakthrough which seems unlikely, we would hear from the senate tomorrow, late morning, get a sense...
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joe biden and president obama will work that very hard. i think they will get more democratic support and far less republican support. this bill does not include spending cuts. it postpones the cuts that everybody agreed to for two bomonths. raising more money there are no cuts to be found in any of it. it is the pain free deal we tend to see. host: let's stick with a possible vote in the house today. the senate approves it at 2:00 a.m. this morning. we are hearing it could be taken up as early as this afternoon and the house. you think it doesn't get as much support. what does it mean for the speaker? guest: i think it is a double- edged sword for him. he is -- it is a terrible situation for him. he doesn't like it. may vote for it -- he may vote for it but he doesn't like it. it is worse than the bill he tried to profit a week or so ago. far worse for republicans or conservatives. it is in -- what he is saying is, does vote for this or whatever. he could hold the bill up and single-handedly stop it. . don't think he will do that there we
joe biden and president obama will work that very hard. i think they will get more democratic support and far less republican support. this bill does not include spending cuts. it postpones the cuts that everybody agreed to for two bomonths. raising more money there are no cuts to be found in any of it. it is the pain free deal we tend to see. host: let's stick with a possible vote in the house today. the senate approves it at 2:00 a.m. this morning. we are hearing it could be taken up as early...
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we're expecting vice president joe biden may come up here at some point. senate democrats are telling us they expect that to be the case. there is some evidence of heart burn on the left some democrats who don't love the tax figure where it is set. they were hoping raising taxes on those making $250,000 and couples making more than 2506789 it looks like 450. but a retiring senate republican says it's a compromise. it's probably a fair deal. it's not something any of us would say i love it, i don't love it. but i think it is a good job of negotiating where there are some wins and some laws. >> so bottom line, there is still work ahead here in the senate tonight. if it were to pass at some point later tonight, then the house would take it up tomorrow, trace. >> trace: mike, got to be a number of lawmakers fed up with the whole process. >> that's absolutely right. we heard a number of lawmakers saying it's december 31st, we could have worked this out long ago. here is one house democrats complain speaker, the american people are looking at congress with disda
we're expecting vice president joe biden may come up here at some point. senate democrats are telling us they expect that to be the case. there is some evidence of heart burn on the left some democrats who don't love the tax figure where it is set. they were hoping raising taxes on those making $250,000 and couples making more than 2506789 it looks like 450. but a retiring senate republican says it's a compromise. it's probably a fair deal. it's not something any of us would say i love it, i...
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mad a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment, which was the clint eastwood wasting 12 minutes of prime time when just before, you have had these truly heart rending stories -- artwarmi stoes aut te humaty of the republican challenger, and also a bio which was not shown. that was terrible. >> the reason why clinton's speech worked was because people know it was bill clinton giving that speech. so many speeches are written by someone else, and they read that way, and the public is sick of it. >> finally, predictions for the year ahead in the supreme court. >> the supreme court -- it will be a gonzoear involving the supreme court possibly striking down the voting rights act, the obstruction of gay marriage, and even weather you can patent -- whether you can patent a genie. >> happy new year to you. she gets the las
mad a better case for barack obama and joe biden and barack obama and joe biden had ever made. the other thing about bill clinton's speech is he had the ultimate line in it -- "this economy was so bad even i could not have fixed it." >> you pointed out in the opening of the show what was the worst political moment, which was the clint eastwood wasting 12 minutes of prime time when just before, you have had these truly heart rending stories -- artwarmi stoes aut te humaty of the...
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mcconnell and joe biden are talking. when things between mcconnell and reid stopped working, mcconnell, highest ranked republican in the senate, reid the highest ranking democrat in the senate. we have to believe some work is being done somewhere. >> some of it is being done somewhere. talking to an aide to senator mcconnell, we understand that discussions between biden and mcconnell went into the night so this is something that they are working on, although certainly, yes, it's being left to the last minute and unclear if we'll avert the fiscal cliff. talk to snom senators, and they say we are going over the cliff. some way they think there will be a deal by tonight and a vote by tonight, but the fact is it's very iffy. here is what's not iffy. an incentive if we go over the cliff to get this done. because it is -- both sides have been preparing themselves for the blame game. it is in full swing now. president obama said, basically saying if we go over the cliff, he is really going to take aim at republicans more than h
mcconnell and joe biden are talking. when things between mcconnell and reid stopped working, mcconnell, highest ranked republican in the senate, reid the highest ranking democrat in the senate. we have to believe some work is being done somewhere. >> some of it is being done somewhere. talking to an aide to senator mcconnell, we understand that discussions between biden and mcconnell went into the night so this is something that they are working on, although certainly, yes, it's being...
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everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick in tomorrow night at midnight is, frankly, pathetic, and it's a political problem, but it's an economic problem, and it's entirely self-created. when marshall blackburn was talking earlier and trying to blame the senate, look at the mirror. don't block at the other guy radio right now. you have to own this, and if particularly in the house of representatives because it's the republicans in the house that have been the biggest stumbling block. we got 98% agreement, both parties and the president agree 98% of americans shouldn't have their taxes raised and yet we're stalled. >> let me talk about consumer confidence. we spent a lot of time before the election riding around the country talking to people about
everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick in tomorrow night at midnight is, frankly, pathetic, and it's a political problem, but it's an economic problem,...
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and that is what vice president joe biden is trying to sell the liberals on right now. saying that this is not the threshold that he wanted. but it's something that least gives tax cuts to many americans were making much less than $250,000 per year. and if you don't do that, the taxes are going to go. gerri: all right, we are going to take a break right now. but we will break into programming the minute that anybody goes to the senate if we hear from the vice president. rich edson is covering all this for us on capitol hill. the fox business team is in place here on sixth avenue. two hours left from the fiscal cliff. the revelers are ready to party, and we are here for you all night. back to the programming totion e that injunction against the contraceptive mandate? >> it is a surprisingri, pringlehey lt be >> a christian-based company, and they think that that is part of their credo, and 10mandment l commandments, the golden rule. the living hearing purchase pilt will kill babies. we are not going to do it. but the circuit court, the appeals court said we are going to
and that is what vice president joe biden is trying to sell the liberals on right now. saying that this is not the threshold that he wanted. but it's something that least gives tax cuts to many americans were making much less than $250,000 per year. and if you don't do that, the taxes are going to go. gerri: all right, we are going to take a break right now. but we will break into programming the minute that anybody goes to the senate if we hear from the vice president. rich edson is covering...